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Wright Joins Ben Shapiro on EPA Endangerment Finding Repeal and the AI Race

July 31, 2025 · U.S. Department of Energy · 0:16:19

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What happened

Energy Secretary Chris Wright joined the Ben Shapiro Show in a segment focused on the Environmental Protection Agency’s move that week to repeal the 2009 endangerment finding for greenhouse gas emissions. Shapiro argued the Clean Air Act was written for pollutants such as ozone, particulate matter, and sulfur dioxide, not carbon dioxide, and that the Obama-era EPA and the Supreme Court’s 2007 reading had stretched the law beyond what Congress authorized.

In the discussion, Wright supported the administration’s regulatory rollback, which the EPA justified in part by pointing to evidence about elevated carbon dioxide, aeroallergens, and allergenic illness being weighed in the rulemaking record. The conversation framed the repeal as restoring the statute’s original scope.

Wright argued that under the prior trajectory the United States would have had no chance to win the AI race against China and would have faced increasing blackouts and brownouts even before AI-driven demand arrived. He said that because President Trump won, businesses are being allowed to invest and lead in AI, putting the country on a very different trajectory, a point Shapiro credited as a reason the economy continues to perform.

Why it matters

The segment links the administration’s two signature energy moves — repealing the legal basis for federal greenhouse-gas regulation and expanding power supply for AI — into a single competitiveness argument against China.

Sources: U.S. Department of Energy, “Secretary Wright Joins The Ben Shapiro Show - July 30, 2025”, 2025-07-31 (official upload, embedded above; published 2025-07-31). Transcript via Supadata (private research store, paraphrased and attributed, not republished). All figures and characterizations as stated by the speakers.